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Jack Barron is a cold hearted monster. With today’s technology how in the world did this man get away so long with smothering his wife, little lone his children? It doesn’t make sense to me, but little does in our system today or then. I give credit to the author of doing a fine and interesting job on the story he told and wrote. It’s just not understandable how a person can be so cold hearted to put a pillow over the faces and kill the people and children that he is suppose to care for and protect. He’s a monster and thank God he will hopefully die in prison. My heart goes out to the Paget family and to Roberta Butler’s family and friends.
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This was a great book, sad story but well written. It’s not possible to understand this woman or her motive. Even if she needed the attention, wasn’t there other ways to get it. Heck, go out and have an affair that is better then killing your child. Not that I condone an affair but my goodness. And to think she is being released sometime this year, that is ludicrous to me. People that get caught selling drugs in our country get more time behind bars then this woman is getting for killing her infant baby girl. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, that a mother can kill her daughter, and hurt her son and so many others and only get this little of time. What is wrong with our system? Whose side are they on? My opinion she will do it again, when given the chance. I say this because in her eyes she never done anything wrong, so what is there to stop her from repeating it, when she’s convinced she is saving someone’s life. This woman needs to be locked up forever for what she done. Sure I feel sorry for her children that they are motherless, her mother that has a monster for a daughter and her siblings. But! They too aren’t helping her by denying that the woman has a real issue. No one can help or stop her until she admits that she is guilty of harming others.
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This is a well written book. Anyone interested in true crime or child abuse needs to read it. Although it did bring lots of my old anger back to the surface.
I also came from a background like Andrew. Abused in every form. Counselors compared our lives to the Nazi war camps. Our mother like Andrews' father sit there and done nothing. Years later she told me that she didn't understand why us children didn't love our dad. Unfortunately, I realize today she also is a very sick person. I did not grow up to become an abuser; quite frankly I had a hard time disciplining my children. I have gone through years (on and off) of counseling, and have a wonderful understanding husband to help me with my past. And today I have two beautiful children with grandchildren and they all love to spend time at grandma's house. So that tells me something.
The one thing I still after all these years have a hard time with is with people seeing things going on and they don't do anything for the child or children. That was the case when I was a child; I personally told people, begged people to do something, neighbors, teachers, police, preachers, strangers, counselors and many, many more. No one ever tried because they were afraid of what my father might do to them or their family. Yes, most thank God in Andrews case did notify the authorities, but excuse me, if today I seen someone pick up a child by the neck and swing him around, there is nothing on this earth that could stop me from attacking the person. Or a mother putting tape on a child’s mouth, oh I am sure there would have been a confrontation right there that moment. Yes I may go to jail or hospital but at least I tried. I'm not judging anyone in the book, but I just feel they could have done more to help Andrew. And my opinion, with the help of professionals, and people that showed him love, Andrew could have been a loving and caring person in adulthood. I did and so did my siblings. Clearly Andrew showed his teacher and many more that he could give and receive love. That in itself is a very positive picture to me that he could have made it.
My point is that when people see something that is not right, then for havens sakes, go that extra mile for that child, please listen to him or her and don't be afraid of the coward that is hurting children. Because believe me they are more abusive to the child then any adult. They are too much of a coward to slap someone their own size around.
I wish everyone would read this book and learn something from it. Because I can tell you first hand, these cases can be stopped if only the people will stand up and not be afraid of the abuser. I proved it with my father, with two of his grandsons. I will never let something like child abuse go without doing my best to save the victim. After all I personally feel my life would be worth saving a little child. Don’t you? Child Abuse needs to be RECONIZED and STOPPED. This can only be done by caring, loving people that is willing to step up face to face with that monster. YOU can be that person.
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Dying for Daddy: A True Story of Accused Family Killer Jack Barron (St. Martin's True Crime Library) by Carlton Smith
charleefs2, January 11, 2008
Jack Barron is a cold hearted monster. With today’s technology how in the world did this man get away so long with smothering his wife, little lone his children? It doesn’t make sense to me, but little does in our system today or then. I give credit to the author of doing a fine and interesting job on the story he told and wrote. It’s just not understandable how a person can be so cold hearted to put a pillow over the faces and kill the people and children that he is suppose to care for and protect. He’s a monster and thank God he will hopefully die in prison. My heart goes out to the Paget family and to Roberta Butler’s family and friends.(5 of 8 readers found this comment helpful)
Cruel Deception by Gregg Olsen
charleefs2, January 11, 2008
This was a great book, sad story but well written. It’s not possible to understand this woman or her motive. Even if she needed the attention, wasn’t there other ways to get it. Heck, go out and have an affair that is better then killing your child. Not that I condone an affair but my goodness. And to think she is being released sometime this year, that is ludicrous to me. People that get caught selling drugs in our country get more time behind bars then this woman is getting for killing her infant baby girl. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, that a mother can kill her daughter, and hurt her son and so many others and only get this little of time. What is wrong with our system? Whose side are they on? My opinion she will do it again, when given the chance. I say this because in her eyes she never done anything wrong, so what is there to stop her from repeating it, when she’s convinced she is saving someone’s life. This woman needs to be locked up forever for what she done. Sure I feel sorry for her children that they are motherless, her mother that has a monster for a daughter and her siblings. But! They too aren’t helping her by denying that the woman has a real issue. No one can help or stop her until she admits that she is guilty of harming others.(2 of 4 readers found this comment helpful)
No One Can Hurt Him Anymore by Carol J Rothgeb
charleefs2, January 11, 2008
This is a well written book. Anyone interested in true crime or child abuse needs to read it. Although it did bring lots of my old anger back to the surface.I also came from a background like Andrew. Abused in every form. Counselors compared our lives to the Nazi war camps. Our mother like Andrews' father sit there and done nothing. Years later she told me that she didn't understand why us children didn't love our dad. Unfortunately, I realize today she also is a very sick person. I did not grow up to become an abuser; quite frankly I had a hard time disciplining my children. I have gone through years (on and off) of counseling, and have a wonderful understanding husband to help me with my past. And today I have two beautiful children with grandchildren and they all love to spend time at grandma's house. So that tells me something.
The one thing I still after all these years have a hard time with is with people seeing things going on and they don't do anything for the child or children. That was the case when I was a child; I personally told people, begged people to do something, neighbors, teachers, police, preachers, strangers, counselors and many, many more. No one ever tried because they were afraid of what my father might do to them or their family. Yes, most thank God in Andrews case did notify the authorities, but excuse me, if today I seen someone pick up a child by the neck and swing him around, there is nothing on this earth that could stop me from attacking the person. Or a mother putting tape on a child’s mouth, oh I am sure there would have been a confrontation right there that moment. Yes I may go to jail or hospital but at least I tried. I'm not judging anyone in the book, but I just feel they could have done more to help Andrew. And my opinion, with the help of professionals, and people that showed him love, Andrew could have been a loving and caring person in adulthood. I did and so did my siblings. Clearly Andrew showed his teacher and many more that he could give and receive love. That in itself is a very positive picture to me that he could have made it.
My point is that when people see something that is not right, then for havens sakes, go that extra mile for that child, please listen to him or her and don't be afraid of the coward that is hurting children. Because believe me they are more abusive to the child then any adult. They are too much of a coward to slap someone their own size around.
I wish everyone would read this book and learn something from it. Because I can tell you first hand, these cases can be stopped if only the people will stand up and not be afraid of the abuser. I proved it with my father, with two of his grandsons. I will never let something like child abuse go without doing my best to save the victim. After all I personally feel my life would be worth saving a little child. Don’t you? Child Abuse needs to be RECONIZED and STOPPED. This can only be done by caring, loving people that is willing to step up face to face with that monster. YOU can be that person.
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